View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
Stretch Sir/Madame Post-a-Lot
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 592 Location: The Wide and Lonely Plains of Texas
|
Posted: Jan Sat 29, 2005 3:26 pm Post subject: Great quotation |
|
|
I was reading Blair's Lectures on Rhetoric and Belles Lettres
for my Post-Enlightenment Rhetoric class and came across this
quotation. It reminded me greatly of discussions about the anus.com
forum and other, similar sites:
"A crowd of unmeaning words is brought together by some authors,
who, afraid of expressing themselves afer a common and ordinary manner,
and allured by an apperance of splendour, surround every thing which
they mean to say with a certain copious loquacity." -- Quintilian
Stretch _________________ "(T)he semicolon, if used at all, is a spasmodic ornament rather than a help to the understanding."
-- Le Baron Russell Briggs |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Michael Mildly enthused
Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 300 Location: Muncie, IN
|
Posted: Jan Sat 29, 2005 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: Great quotation |
|
|
I like it. I'm assuming the irony's intentional. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Stretch Sir/Madame Post-a-Lot
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 592 Location: The Wide and Lonely Plains of Texas
|
Posted: Jan Sat 29, 2005 6:38 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Well,
since the quotation is from one of the two most famous Roman orators
and the generally accepted style is long since changed, no. But yes, it
is a bit ironic, isn't it, when rendered in our modern speaking and
writing style?
Stretch _________________ "(T)he semicolon, if used at all, is a spasmodic ornament rather than a help to the understanding."
-- Le Baron Russell Briggs |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Evermind Sir/Madame Post-a-Lot
Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 709 Location: oil rig!
|
Posted: Jan Sat 29, 2005 9:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
That also seems to apply to about 90% of all phD theses being written on this planet, which say a lot but discover very little. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Laeth MacLaurie Bunny punk
Joined: 05 Jan 2005 Posts: 72
|
Posted: Jan Sat 29, 2005 9:39 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Certainly
the reviews are a little dense, but I think it's less a case of
deliberately opaque writing and more a case of a stream of consciouness
approach to reviews. He writes out his encounters with music, rather
than reviewing albums in the traditional sense. The essays on the site
are in a pretty accessible style, whether one agrees with them or not. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Captain Q Mr. Crotch Shot
Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 515 Location: Belgium, centre of the New World Order
|
Posted: Jan Sun 30, 2005 5:18 am Post subject: |
|
|
Hey Stretch, does your quote happen to come from Robert Walser?
Q _________________ "It's better to be approximately right, than to be precisely wrong." - HM Keynes |
|
Back to top |
|
|
RobDMicRocka Posts-Too-Much
Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 2207
|
Posted: Jan Sun 30, 2005 8:50 am Post subject: |
|
|
anybody
who uses the phrase "populist touches" to simply state an album is more
commercial than their past ones is clearly in love with excess.
Prozak is the epitome of pathetic. How many trolls, other than
Matthias Palm, live in their role as a troll on the net for YEARS? For
fuck's sake, I know some nimrod will say "ah, but he's got ya, people
talk about him and they take his bait on the newsgroups", but they
really DON'T anymore. A lot of his posts go unanswered nowadays. the
only time he gets brought up here is when someone types lengthy posts
with excessive verbiage _________________ <knut> how the fuck did he get pulled over, he looks like an ugly mongolian businessman |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Satan Stole My Teddybear Site Overlords & Vengeful Gods
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 5474 Location: Utopia
|
Posted: Jan Sun 30, 2005 9:40 am Post subject: |
|
|
Don't forget Prozak's short lived time here trying to rip off people on this forum with his trade list....
John _________________
http://www.ssmt-reviews.com |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Laeth MacLaurie Bunny punk
Joined: 05 Jan 2005 Posts: 72
|
Posted: Jan Sun 30, 2005 12:08 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Satan Stole My Teddybear wrote: | Don't forget Prozak's short lived time here trying to rip off people on this forum with his trade list....
John |
I've traded with him on 7 or 8 different occasions and had no problems at all. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Satan Stole My Teddybear Site Overlords & Vengeful Gods
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 5474 Location: Utopia
|
Posted: Jan Sun 30, 2005 12:33 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Laeth MacLaurie wrote: | Satan Stole My Teddybear wrote: | Don't forget Prozak's short lived time here trying to rip off people on this forum with his trade list....
John |
I've traded with him on 7 or 8 different occasions and had no problems at all. |
Well, he wasn't so cool when he tried posting his sale list here. He
denied one person a deal because he didn't agree with the buyer's
opinions on something and then did a bait n switch on another person,
which is actually illegal. Since he wasn't willing to treat people on
my forum fairly and honestly, he was banned.
John _________________
http://www.ssmt-reviews.com |
|
Back to top |
|
|
RobDMicRocka Posts-Too-Much
Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 2207
|
Posted: Jan Sun 30, 2005 12:39 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Laeth MacLaurie wrote: | Satan Stole My Teddybear wrote: | Don't forget Prozak's short lived time here trying to rip off people on this forum with his trade list....
John |
I've traded with him on 7 or 8 different occasions and had no problems at all. |
So? I've never had an issue with Paypal when I've used it, but that
doesn't mean that they haven't fucked over several thousands of other
people.
Besides, a ripoff has to make good on some of his trades or else he'll never be a successful ripoff. _________________ <knut> how the fuck did he get pulled over, he looks like an ugly mongolian businessman |
|
Back to top |
|
|
meshrinoctus Posts-Too-Much
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 2118 Location: hobart & william smith (geneva, ny)
|
Posted: Jan Sun 30, 2005 1:38 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I
just got back from the North American Debate Championships at Cornell,
and that quote easily applies to the majority of speeches given. Don't
get me wrong, I love debate, but it's pure sophistry. It's all about
using a lot of words and a lot of oomph to convince the judge that a
few relatively simple, controversial ideas are unquestionable truths. _________________
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
Inverness Sir/Madame Post-a-Lot
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1323 Location: New Jersey / Ithaca
|
Posted: Jan Sun 30, 2005 1:49 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Evermind wrote: | That also seems to apply to about 90% of all phD theses being written on this planet, which say a lot but discover very little. |
That's one thing that's crossed my mind more than once as I dive deeper
into research. Where I sit in the computer lab, there's a poster that's
hanging above my computer that was done by my research advisor and her
post-doc partner about the temperature difference between current day
South America and the temperatures during the Last Glacial Maximum. All
I have to wonder is... who gives a fuck and how does this help anyone?
My friend Christina, who is also working with my research advisor (and
who happens to be the one who took my spot here... maybe I'm better off
not going here, though -- story for another post!), is doing research
that compares moisture over Africa from today and from the "African
Humid Period" almost 6000 years ago. Again, who gives a fuck and how
does this help anyone?
Hopefully, if I get into grad school, my research topics aren't stupid and fund-wasting. _________________
Quote: | You may have far bigger problems than hitting on unavailable girls.
John |
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
rogthefrog Posts-Too-Much
Joined: 09 Jul 2004 Posts: 2038 Location: Fokof
|
Posted: Jan Sun 30, 2005 3:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Maybe
the results don't help much, but the knowledge and skills acquired
during the preparation of the thesis are vital to the new doctor in
his/her later career. It's not just about the destination, it's about
the journey, grasshopper.
You guys are, like, totally negative. _________________
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
Stretch Sir/Madame Post-a-Lot
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 592 Location: The Wide and Lonely Plains of Texas
|
Posted: Jan Sun 30, 2005 3:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Captain Q wrote: | Hey Stretch, does your quote happen to come from Robert Walser? |
No, it's from a collection entitled The Rhetoric of Blair, Campbell, and Whately,
edited by Golden and Corbett. The quotation is by the Roman orator
Quintilian (35-95 CE) and repeated in Hugh Blair's Lecture X, Style--Perspecuity and Precision, which was originally composed in 1762 or shortly thereafter and officially published in 1783.
Stretch _________________ "(T)he semicolon, if used at all, is a spasmodic ornament rather than a help to the understanding."
-- Le Baron Russell Briggs |
|
Back to top |
|
|
steulen Mildly enthused
Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 189 Location: Netherlands
|
Posted: Jan Sun 30, 2005 3:13 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Evermind wrote: | That also seems to apply to about 90% of all phD theses being written on this planet, which say a lot but discover very little. |
ignorant fuck -> <- Me, PhD and anyone who cares to join in _________________ "Things that try to look like things often do look more like things than things" - Granny Weatherwax |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Michael Mildly enthused
Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 300 Location: Muncie, IN
|
Posted: Jan Sun 30, 2005 3:26 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I get the feeling that the reply count on this thread is going to skyrocket. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Inverness Sir/Madame Post-a-Lot
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1323 Location: New Jersey / Ithaca
|
Posted: Jan Sun 30, 2005 3:33 pm Post subject: |
|
|
rogthefrog wrote: | Maybe
the results don't help much, but the knowledge and skills acquired
during the preparation of the thesis are vital to the new doctor in
his/her later career. It's not just about the destination, it's about
the journey, grasshopper. |
Oh, I know, Rog. My summer job was statistics-based, and I learned a
good deal through programming in python, data manipulation, stat stats
stats, etc., and I really enjoy this modeling stuff, but I suppose I
need to know that my information will be of use to someone in the
future. No, sorry -- to be more correct, I'd like to help the present.
I suppose that's part of the reason why I'm so interested in hurricanes
-- it affects lots and lots of people. I still maintain my indignation
towards studying meteorological effects of thousands of years ago that
have virtually no bearing on today's climate. To give a concrete
comparison, studying the difference as studying warming patterns and
the rate of change of the level of noxious fumes in the atmosphere
would hold more water with me than studying the temperature of the air
two meters above the surface in Africa 6000 years ago.
FYI, Dr. Cook, my research advisor, is like 60 years old! _________________
Quote: | You may have far bigger problems than hitting on unavailable girls.
John |
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
Persona Vitrea Sir/Madame Post-a-Lot
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1154
|
Posted: Jan Sun 30, 2005 3:44 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I
kinda feel the same way that Charles Darwin, good empiricist, did:
"Doing what little one can to increase the general stock of knowledge
is as respectable an object of life, as one can in any likelihood
pursue." _________________ "None
comes into the world with a saddle upon his back, neither any booted
and spurred to ride him." --Richard Rumbold, (1622–1685). |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Ecce Panis Posts-Too-Much
Joined: 22 Feb 2003 Posts: 3288 Location: in a butt lol
|
Posted: Jan Sun 30, 2005 3:57 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I should have applyed for a job with DW&P instead of going to college :sigh: _________________ Garland: ... I, Garland, will knock you all down! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|